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Live from millinocket, maine. thanks so much for joining us, senator. you said this week that you cannot overstate how concerned you are with the cyberattacks. you co-chair the cyberspace commission and sit on the u.s. intelligence committee. what are you most concerned about, and has the u.s. responded offensively through retaliatory cyberattacks? well, you ve asked two or three questions there. i ll take the last one first. there has been some responses. both from nsa and from the biden administration in terms of things like sanctions. so there have been responses, but i think we need to step that up. one of the problems is over the past 15 or 20 years as we ve had these series of cyberattacks from north korea, russia, china, we really haven t responded. we ve been a cheap date, and you can t defend yourself simply by bobbing, weaving and patching. the adversary has to understand there will be a cost for attacking the united states or our critical infrastructure, and thus far they ....
What are you most concerned about and has the u.s. responded offensively through retaliatory cyberattacks? well, you ve asked two or three questions there. i ll take the last one first. there has been some responses. both from nsa and from the biden administration in terms of things like sanctions. so there have been responses, but i think we need to step that up. one of the problems is over the past 15 or 20 years as we ve had these series of cyberattacks from north korea, russia, china, we really haven t responded. we ve been a cheap date and you can t defend yourself simply by bobbing, weaving and patching. the accedversary has to realize there will be a cost for attacking the united states or our critical infrastructure and thus far they haven t felt that. i think that s a piece of this that we have to do. the other piece as you mentioned in your intro, we keep getting wakeup calls and keep not waking ....
We ve been a cheap date, and you can t defend yourself simply by bobbing, weaving and patching. the adversary has to understand there will be a cost for attacking the united states or our critical infrastructure, and thus far they haven t felt that. i think that s a piece of this that we have to do. the other piece, as you mentioned in your intro, we keep getting wakeup calls and keep not waking up. and the problem is, this is a complex issue. 85% or 90% of the target space, jake, is in the private sector. so the federal government can do everything right and not that we are and there are a lot of things we re working on as you mentioned the commission we ve been working on for the last three years, we ve made a lot of recommendations, changed a lot of laws, got a national cyber director going into the place in the next two or three weeks, but it all depends on ....
Ghettos? it s like unfrozen he stepped off the john lindsay walking through the sort of bombed out south bronx set. from, like, the mid-60s talking about the cities and it s almost like the commission, this is such dated talk, and somebody pointed out, donald trump lives in the inner city himself. well, manhattan. kind of up a little higher. lives in a city, though! but the point being, american cities have been rejuvenated in the last 20 years. there s all kinds of gentrification. certainly in new york, and washington, and every city and reflective from a candidate coming from a different era. and the candidate s base. i wrote an article how his base is elderly voters. the only age group he ever wins in poll is voter over 65. for a lot of those people they haven t been near an inner city in the last 30, 40 years. they remember the 1950s or the 60s and 70s when the cities ....
Trending red. one of the things he s doing, picking places that haven t necessarily seen the recovery than other parts of the state that have. ohio has a republican governor who would disagree vehemently but that s one of the ways that his message is resonating. talking to people who haven t felt that. the problem with that is that he goes to loudon county in virginia. yeah. a booming suburb of washington, d.c., which has done pretty well thanks to the government and talking about closed down factories and coal moonors. don t give him too much credit. in august, but still. he s preaching doom and gloom wherever he goes because he has one message. the closing statement he made at the third and final debate was to excoriate president obama at a time when the incumbent s number are on the rise and over 50% in many polls knop strategy here involved. let s not pretend there is. he s saying stuff because the base he has responds to it effectively. but not a message that s going t ....