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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:08:00

would pardon trump. so pardoning somebody who wanted to harm him is only understandable to a cult dynamics. so it s very difficult situation we re in right now. jennifer, we have a couple of people, as i say, if you add up chris christie and will hurd, will hurd is not polling at the moment because he just join the race. kristie was a at i think 2% earlier this week. asa hutchison, 1.3%. so we have 5% versus donald trump s 50 plus percent of republicans with a conscience who would like to save their party. on the one hand, ruth s right, most of the party is a cult. is this a way to save it or is it better than the republican party implodes and something else shows up in its place? it s not a good thing to have one political party that functions in this country. i don t think the republican base is willing to accept a sane non cold like figure. the party has been radicalized. they ve been radicalized to

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:02:00

but it s not just trump. we know that he is a symptom, not the disease itself. every time i get a subpoena, my polls go up. reports were grand jury. it s all bowl to. it s all stuff. you can see the crowd, there but more than 2000 people stood in the wind and rain to cheer that trump rant. to cheer the subpoenas. the grand juries, the man being investigated for possibly breaking multiple laws, harming america s national security, and attempting to subvert an american election. that s the leader of the republican party. that s the man who, according to new reports from crew, citizens for responsibility and action ethics in washington, is a reason why 174 of the january six defendants participated in the insurrection. they believe donald trump called them. they chose to follow him into lawlessness over democracy and the rule of law. the republican voters cheering

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:02:00

you can see the crowd, there but more than 2000 people stood in the wind and rain to cheer that trump rant. to cheer the subpoenas. the grand juries, the man being investigated for possibly breaking multiple laws, harming america s national security, and attempting to subvert an american election. that s the leader of the republican party. that s the man who, according to new reports from crew, citizens for responsibility and action ethics in washington, is a reason why 174 of the january six defendants participated in the insurrection. they believe donald trump called them. they chose to follow him into lawlessness over democracy and the rule of law. the republican voters cheering trump, they believed him. nbc news is now reporting that the convicted felon, roger stone, whom trump landed clemency for doing his dirty work, is flying to las vegas

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:01:00

twice impeached, twice criminally indicted so far donald trump is the undisputed presidential front runner of the republican party. i don t know that on january 7th, 2021, right after all the republicans who mattered had condemned donald trump s role in the attempted insurrection, that we thought we would be here a year and a half later. we are very far away from the republican party returning to normal, perhaps even knowing what normal is. we are very far away from an america where both of the two majority political parties respect the system and stand up for democracy. we know where donald trump stands on democracy and architecture. but it s not just trump. we know that he is a symptom, not the disease itself. every time i get a subpoena, my polls go up. reports were grand jury. it s all bowl to. it s all stuff.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:03:00

trump, they believed him. nbc news is now reporting that the convicted felon, roger stone, whom trump landed clemency for doing his dirty work, is flying to las vegas with donald trump. in trump world there is no shame. no remorse, no regrets, ever. so where do we go from here? how do you solve a real problem like donald trump? it s not just a republican party problem when, say, more than 60% of republican primary voters will keep supporting the anti democratic accused lawbreaker nominee. loan trump is running in a field that does include these men, the jersey governor chris christie, the former congressman from texas will hurd, the former acca arkansas governor asa hutchison, republicans who seem prepared to say the right thing. he takes these boxes with him. he flies them. up there in new jersey now, if he still has them. they d be a new jersey. they go on summer vacation with him. i mean, he wanted to continue to pretend he was president and

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