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Argument that of course, he says, quote, of course donald trump didn t tell the truth and he says basically this was the way they were going to keep it secret and mr. costello today did say, this is the first time i had you on since then and i want to give you the benefit of responding. they say you just cooked this all up. donald trump didn t know about it. you did it for whatever your reasons are and they also say it wasn t a crime, and if there was anything wrong, that s on you, sir. what is your response to them saying you went rogue. that s the defense they ll put forward. it will fail and fail miserably on its face. first of all, i didn t sleep with stormy daniels. donald did. second of all, there were notifications that came into the trump organization about her. not filing a lawsuit, mr. costello, facts do matter especially on this show. she wasn t filing a lawsuit. she was going to go public with the information very much at a key time for the campaign. at a very key t ....
And it is not clear he ll have the ability that donald trump would want. they hadn t represented ruly as giuliani and i don t think a lawyer with red credibility issue attack another lawyer with criminal issues. the other thing is they brought him before the grand jury, costello, and they had lined up michael cohen to be a rebuttal witness and i m sure we ll hear about this when michael comes on the air, but cohen didn t even testify today. there is some reporting that he might testify on wednesday before the grand jury, and we are working independently to verify that. it doesn t look like this was some sort of big move that changed the game. indeed, if it really were a game changer, it was a strategic mistake on trump s part because you want to save that kind of ....
Despite the fact he doesn t know what he s talking about and all of a sudden they re now on television so that because i wasn t the only one that was going through some issues at the time, they re now throwing it out there for anybody to see. do you recall costello being a part of that? well, not at that point in time, but he ultimately became later? yes, a significant party to this. so what does it tell you, first michael and then nick, that this is who they brought out? i just heard from a different lawyer who doesn t have a brief for or against you, he said if this is the best they can do it s a hail mary at the end. they bring this guy who has at least been on both sides of it to attack you in the grand jury. what do you make of costello being who they brought out today? because there s not another dope that s willing to put his back side on the line for donald. for whatever the reason costello has elected to do this, i don t know. i mean, the guy has a career. he s ....
Legally request a witness appear for them under new york law and that itself was not some giant surprise. we had collected information that trump s new york lawyers were, of course, talking to the d.a., and i asked joe s current counsel joe tackopena. we are shocked that this has gotten this far. you re telling me, here s this misdemeanor and it s not a strong campaign finance case. did she say stuff like that? mr. tacopena told me and also confirmed in that interview that he and his co-counsel had met with the d.a. you say what s the point of a meeting like that? today shows what the point of a meeting like that is. you make your case and sometimes you learn where they re headed and you say did you speak to mr. costello, we know new york law and we want him to be able to testify which he did today. now that is a sign that the new ....
you went down there today. did you testify? i did not. i was asked to be a potential rebuttal witness. the prosecutors determined that my rebuttal was not necessary and so i was released. not necessary today according to them. mr. costello said several things. i ll start with a fairly narrow one. he sure did. he said a lot of things today. as a narrow matter he asserted that he says you are testify again on wednesday. is that true? so very much like most of everything that came out his mouth he lacks for any sense of veracity here. there s no accuracy to his statement. i have not been asked to come back on wednesday and moreover, something that you would know, as well. prosecutors will not tell you if you are or are not coming back. they just don t do this. they ll let you know at the last moment or at least the day before. so how he has this specific information, just goes to show you he is exactly who he is and ....