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Intense debate. much of the focus is on roe v. wade but other key cases like voting rights and campaign finance hang in the balance. harry lippmann joins me, as well as pete williams. pete, in gaming this, as you know better than anyone, all of these people have been vetted and cleared by the federalist society. we have to assume they re conservatives. but among conservatives, there are those who are more true believing on some things than others. so what are the objections to cavanaugh, for instance? well, i think they focus on two decisions that he joined, one in dissent when he said that a young woman who was arrested as an illegal immigrant and held in detention was not entitled to have the federal government help her get an abortion. he agreed with that, but his dissent by some opponents of abortion wasn t considered strong enough. so it wasn t his position. ....
From the episcopal church because they didn t like some of the positions of the episcopal church. he is not an ivy league graduate, he went to michigan law school. he was in private practice. nominated by george w. bush and confirmed by voice vote. he co-wrote a book with an army veteran on the importance of solitude and thinking for leaders. interesting that it was a voice vote. so he was not controversial or they would have demanded a roll call vote at the time. right. of course there s a different test, a different standard. they re all lifetime appointments, but a different standard certainly for elevation to the supreme court. for the simple reason that the appeals court judges follow supreme court precedent and supreme court justices set it. and harry, as someone experienced as a prosecutor and as a justice department official, what are the stakes here, given the politics of it, they ve got the numbers. so if it s party line or if they ....
To. and i think that s true. mac mclarty, harry lippmann, thank you very much. susan, stick around. scott pruitt s scandals keep piling up. this time he s hitting back against a report that he wanted jeff sessions fired so he could take the job. thanks for the ride-along, captain! i ve never been in one of these before, even though geico has been- ohhh. ooh ohh here we go, here we go. you got cut off there, what were you saying? oooo. oh no no. maybe that geico has been proudly serving the military for over 75 years? is that what you wanted to say? mhmmm. i have to say, you seemed a lot chattier on tv. geico. proudly serving the military for over 75 years. you ok back there, buddy? welcome to holiday inn! thank you! wait, i have something for you! every stay is a special stay at holiday inn. save up to 15% when you book early ....
Currents here. who knows what president trump will ultimately decide. he s on a fast track. i would say, chris, he may be a bit better prepared on this decision than some others he s faced because of that early list that he put forward in the campaign. so he s got a list of people. could he expand that as senator collins asked him to? perhaps. it seems to me he wants to move forward here. i suspect he maybe has made up his mind subject to that last thought before he moves forward. harry, even as the word moderate comes out of my mouth, i realized those terms don t have the same meaning they once did. it s little fuzzy on the edges. but you clerked for justice kennedy. let me ask you this specifically. do you see anyone on this list who could, as he did, be a true swing vote, say, siding with conservatives on a travel ban but liberals on same-sex marriages? i m scared to say it because it may doom him, but my hometown favorite, tom hardiman, i think might qualify there. ....
Harry lippmann, former assistant attorney general during the clinton administration. matt mclarty, chairman of mclarty associates. matt, you worked on the ginsburg and breyer nominations. one thing that hasn t changed, the nominee has to pass through a senate vote. given the political reality that the president surprises us and either goes off the list altogether orleans toward one of the most moderate choices on the list? i hope it s the latter, i hope the president has listened carefully to senators collins and murkowski of his own party. you have some emotion on this from the democratic side because judge merrick garland, a very accomplished jurist, was not confirmed in kind of an unfortunate situation. you ve got some real cross ....