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President saying this would be a war of choice, very different from that moment. so, it was very clear as the u.s. is very much hoping to avoid an invasion at this point, they re leaning on the russian president on doing so. i thought that was striking. matt, president biden, of course, having the ear not just of the american people, not just the russian people, but of the ukrainian people as well. yeah. the ukrainian people, i ve got to tell you, i ve been talking to them here in this city, it s they re not exactly worried about this invasion. this is something that has been so hard to explain considering the number of troops and the hardware mustering all around this country. this really wasn t a message to the ukrainian people. we actually saw the president bringing up and invoking some of the language that barack obama has invoked and mike memoli mentioned this, that dialogue ....
Lot of hardware mustering and a lot of troops must during. some of the big items, like sequoia jets, attack helicopters, battle tanks and self propelled howitzers. these things, we are expecting them to come over the border, we did hear one report that we are starting to hear troops coming over the border. mostly we are hearing that in the far south in odessa and marriott poll. but we still need more information and there s a lot of uncertainty. we are just waiting for more information from the government at this point. matt, standby, of course, if you hear anything or see anything, wave your hand and we will put you right back on. i wanna go to keir simmons, who has new reporting in moscow. and vladimir putin s decision to begin this incursion. that s right hala, we ve just been speaking to a former russian official with very close ties to the kremlin. before i tell you what he told us, i want to set, i think we need to borrow a phrase from previous european wars. the fog of war. ....