Too small. Reporter now that sense of ownership is gone. The Trump Organization which no longer runs the building says it had no hand in vetting the people who financed, sold or bought it. Now that President Trump is in the white house. Uhhuh. Reporter do you think the Trump Organization and the trump family are trying to distance themselves from you . I wouldnt say that theyre trying, because i dont think that i can harm them. Reporter it took months to track Alexander Ventura down and persuade limb to shim to sit wi interview. He asked we disguise his appearance, hes on the run in panama wanted for fraud saying he sold hundreds of United Nations in the trump club to hide their identities. Banks werent asking questions where the money was coming from . No. Never. Reporter sounds like nobody was asking questions. Not you, not the Trump Organization, not the banks, not the developers . Nobody. Nobody. Reporte nobody checked anybody out. People were buying, Spending Millions 5, 10, 20 un
no. reporter: were these buyers planning on living in these units, in these apartments? most of them, no. reporter: that never raised alarm bells with you? somebody buying 15 units, doesn t want to live in the place, from from russia? no. because that was normal. they had laundry money, that s their problem. reporter: and it wasn t just russians. one of the most famous money launderers in the world, davide guzman bought units in the building too. we met a former panamanian prosecutor who worked on the guzman case. [ speaking in foreign language ] translator: the guzman investigation was a vast case and as part of it we had information that alexandr ventura was the partner. reporter: we heard the same thing from freezener. guzman and ventura. reporter: was their relationship between both business partners. they became, after a couple years business partners. reporter: how did they work together? how did that collaboration work?