so they re not paying bank fees and a lot in health, new vaccines. so we re by far the biggest funder on malaria, coming up with new bed nets, new drugs. ..a vaccine, a way of killing mosquitoes. yeah, but if you think about this in terms of ethics, are you driven in your philanthropy mostly by excitement, by the potential outcome, or does it come from some deep psychological motive, you know, guilt, a feeling that you should live a life that s purposeful, a feeling that, you know, you genuinelyjust don t know what to do with this cash? i not only want to put the money in, but i want to put my time in and assemble people so we can learn, you know, what health systems work, which ones don t. i, you know, find the work very fulfilling. i get to learn new things. get to go to interesting places. yeah. there s no sacrifice involved. it s. well, it s quite a lot of financial sacrifice! sure, but i don t have any use for that money. i mean, i m not denying myself, you know, the wor
Things in that realm, i have experience. but in politics, i never expected him to be elected, so i m disqualified for any predictions related to him. ijust wonder what went through your mind when you saw those pictures of rioters in washington storming the capitol building? i mean, did you think that you d see that in your lifetime? no. it s deeply troubling that what you think of in sort of tinpot democracies is happening in what is supposed to be the exemplar of democracy. when we had the first pandemic in a century, he was the guy running america and i think it d be fair to say that his leadership was not always as committed to the best sciences as you have been. the us performance, which the executive branch has to take responsibility for, was quite disappointing. now, the us did a few things right, including funding a lot of the vaccine work. you know, the us government funded the most, our foundation also funded a lot,