go? and how to make a seditious conspiracy case by way of the last major attack at the capitol. in washington, d.c., ruthless fanatic violence erupted in the halls of congress. plus, as baltimore officials face perjury charges. is there a reason this guy hasn t been charged yet? and mark elias on a surprise court victory for democrats. all in starts right now. good evening from new york. i m chris hayes. today two of the people facing seditious conspiracy charges in connection with the attack at the capitol on january 6th appeared in court for the first time. 63-year-old edward vallejo answered questions from a judge remotely from an arizona jail and 56-year-old elmer stewart rhodes u appeared in plano, texas. they are among 11 members of the far-right extremeist group the oath keepers.
vice president. listen here. how much money did you make from ukraine? i release 21 years of my tax returns, your guy hasn t released one, what is he hiding? this is what i talk about having to restore the soul of america, it is called decency and honor. it wasn t clear whether or not those hecklers were there together, but they seem to be there with the intention of disrupting the event. the biden campaign did not a appeared to intervene, they said their piece and left on their own, a small group of trump supporter s were outside the venue holding signs and flags. among democratic candidates, this state is still very much up for grabs as we get closer to the caucus. according to a poll released earlier this month, 18% of voters said the 2020 democratic
systems. right. obviously we have to deal with those. i think one of the take-aways for me, at least, was we re not very well prepared for war. we re prepared to maybe slow down defeat for the ukrainians, but i don t see that we have a policy to help them win right now. so, what kind of impression do you have of what the negotiations are about these day s, what s in play, and what s realistic? is there any sense of how did you get any sense of how this could end? i think you ve been reporting as i ve been listening and by the way, i could spend an hour listening to hadley talk about the oil markets but i think you ve been reporting pretty accurately what the state of play is, and that is it s not very realistic at least at this point. vladimir putin says one thing, he does something different. you can t rely on it. and understandably so. i mean, the guy hasn t really been shooting straight with us for a very long time, obviously.
this, they hire their own people. but in the biden administration they went out and directly hired ngos to come and be part of dhs and ice. they contact their buddy at headquarters and say, we want this guy released and they make it happen. they ve cut out the field directors, they are cutting us out and letting people go that do not need to be released into the states. tucker: so just to be clear, an ngo organization is not federal employees. since when do people who don t work for the federal government gets to make federal policy? like,t what? and here s an example. i had a case who the guy was in the dome i could stomach a contented arsonist and they said mr. feeley, one of our criteria is if the guy hasn t been arrested in the past ten years we need to let them go. we d like you to release them.
ainsley: is he fed up. steve: he had it up to here because trump was trying to stop things and biden not so much. here he is last night here on the channel. there is a fine line, tucker, between telling people we are not breaking the law and not enforcing it and being okay with that. some ice officials will tell you while the biden administration isn t telling us to break the law, but they are definitely telling you not to enforce it so, you know, if that s what you are going to split hairs on we are pretty much screwed as a country going down this road. i had a case who the guy was a convicted arsonist they called me and said hey, mr. feely, one of our criteria is if the guy hasn t been arrested in the past 10 years we need to let you go and we would like you to release them. i have say i totally get what you are saying he has been in prison 12 years that s why he hasn t been arrested the answer was we don t really care. he hasn t been rearrested in 10 years, whether he was in priso