we can now speak to firearms expert clark aposhian who has extensive experience working as a weapons handler on hollywood productions. what is the latest that you are hearing about what happened? (audio breaks up). it was handed to the actor, alec baldwin, and he fired it. it is a breakdown of at least three things. no live ammunition on the set and pointing a firearm at a person, still not allowed on a set even during the filming. an finger on the trigger when it shouldn t have been. ., ., . ., been. you touched on it there. what are been. you touched on it there. what are the been. you touched on it there. what are the normal been. you touched on it there. what are the normal working l what are the normal working practices around guns onset and what are your thoughts about what are your thoughts about what appears to have gone wrong here? ~ , ., ., what appears to have gone wrong here? ~ ., ., , here? when you are actually usin: here? when you are actually using an here? when
rules, then the rules mean nothing. it s common sense. don t bring live guns onset. don t bring live ammo onset. don t point guns at people that you don t want to put holes into. it s not much more complicate the than that. steve wolf, professional stuntman, film weapons safety expert, spelling this out in a way that is very, very clear. steve, thank you for helping us understand tonight. i really appreciate it. rachel, thanks so much. appreciate it. we ve got more ahead tonight. stay with us. topical pain relief ingredient. it s clinically proven, reduces inflammation and comes in original prescription strength. salonpas. it s good medicine. (vo) this is more than just a building.
armorer, somebody who specializes in weaponry for film and tv sets. as you can imagine, the entertainment industry has really strict rules for using firearms onset. this is some of the from the industry wide labor management safety commission, these are some of the safety bulletins they ve put out about guns onset. look what this one says right at the top in all capital letters, blanks can kill. treat all firearms as though they are loaded. then it is pages and pages of rules trying to head off any tragic accidents like the one we saw yesterday in new mexico. number one, refrain from pointing a firearm at anyone including yourself. if it is absolutely necessary to do so on camera, consult the prop master. number two, never place your finger on the trigger until you re ready to shoot. keep your finger alongside the firearm and off the trigger. number three, know where and what your intended target is. this goes on and on and on. to state the very obvious, clearly something broke down
on this set and what was inside the gun, what type of round? what we do know is that in the past, these accidents have happened. you know, 1993, bruce lee s son, brandon lee, also died from the discharge of a prop gun in hollywood, but the exact definition of what was being used, what was discharged, that will be something that the legal experts, the analysts, and of course the sheriff s office will have to look into. what we know is that this has happened in the past and now we have more and more celebrities and people that work in hollywood who are calling for a change, perhaps the use of some type of alternative. we did see that there was a director that tweeted this morning, saying we could use special effects instead of using guns onset, so there s a lot of discussion after this incident took place, which is not the first one. this is not the first time that someone dies on a movie set with a usable prop gun. unbelievably tragic. please come back if you get any developments in t