individuals who are targeted but if you look, systematically, what s going to happen to our elections, that s really bad. well, and that s the intent, right? i mean, all of the intimidation plans have and for a guy not really known for being strategic, this is the strategy of bullying and targeting individuals trying to go about their lives. ben, it s an incredible piece of reporting. i trust you re going to stay on it. please come back and let us know how it goes. thank you for spending time with us to talk about it and for jumping in when we were graced by sam stein s son. sam sticks around. when we come back, could a prosecutor s decision on whether to charge the parents of the michigan high school gunman help slow down the tragic epidemic of school shootings in this country? i certainly hope so. fred guttenberg, whose daughter was killed at margery stoneman douglas high school in florida will be our next guest. s high sa will be our next guest