presidentjose ramos horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it s fair to say you ve given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, not just once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he asked me to run again. ..to put timor leste back on the map of the world, because it was neglected, forgotten for a few years, because we ve been living in peace and tranquillity, so we did not constitute news. but at the same time, with so many conflicts in the world, we were running the risk of being forgotten. so. and then our asean accession. so i was asked to serve, to be the visible face of the campaign for our asean accession.
presidentjose ramos horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it s fair to say you ve given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, not just once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he asked me to run again. ..to put timor leste back on the map of the world, because it was neglected, forgotten for a few years, because we ve been living in peace and tranquillity, so we did not constitute news. but at the same time, with so many conflicts in the world, we were running the risk of being forgotten. so. and then our asean accession. so i was asked to serve, to be the visible face of the campaign for our asean accession.
learn from his extraordinary life? presidentjose ramos horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it s fair to say you ve given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, notjust once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he asked me to run again. ..to put timor leste back on the map of the world, because it was neglected, forgotten for a few years, because we ve been living in peace and tranquillity, so we did not constitute news. but at the same time, with so many conflicts in the world, we were running the risk of being forgotten. so. and then our asean accession. so i was asked to serve, to be the visible face of the
are there lessons for the world to learn from his extraordinary life? presidentjose ramos horta, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for having me. it is a great pleasure to have you in the studio. i think it s fair to say you ve given most of your life to the struggle for freedom in timor leste, east timor, as we used to know it, and you have served as its president, not just once, but twice. you decided to come back in 2022 to seek the presidency again. was that a tough decision, to come back? yes. on a personal basis, yes. it was not in my plan, but then mr xanana gusmao, now prime minister, whom i deeply respect, he asked me to run again. ..to put timor leste back on the map of the world, because it was neglected, forgotten for a few years, because we ve been living in peace and tranquillity, so we did not constitute news. but at the same time, with so many conflicts in the world, we were running the risk of being forgotten. so. and then our asean accession. so i was asked to
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