it s doing a disservice to not tell the history, which is that the confederacy lost and wanted to break apart the union over the issue of slavery and they lost. they re losers and praising them has nothing to do with kind of, you know, crapping on the south. there is great southern culture. i lived in the south for some time. so did you, i know. and so we can embrace the south and the stories of the south without trying to rewrite an awful chapter, maybe the darkest chapter in our nation s history as anything other than that. i need to get ron in. ron, i ll give you the last word here. real quick, i think the pronoun is really revealing because for the people pushing this these efforts, it s not our kids. it s somebody else s kids. and you re talking about a texas republican party that is overwhelmingly centered in the non-urban, the rural predominantly white christian parts of the state setting rules for a public school system three quarters kids of color trying to control wha
i don t know. you know there have always been efforts to sort of tell the confederate story as if the confederacy was heroic but not actually about slavery. it was about property or whatever it was but i think it s really. tariffs. it s doing a disservice to not tell the history, which is that the confederacy lost and wanted to break apart the union over the issue of slavery and they lost. th they re losers and praising them has nothing to do with kind of, you know, crapping on the south. there is great southern culture. i lived in the south for sometime. so did you, i know. and so we can embrace the south and the stories of the south without trying to rewrite an awful chapter, maybe the darkest chapter in our nation s history as anything other than that. i need to get ron in. ron, i ll give you the last word here. real quick, i think the pronoun is really revealing
state, they are voting on something more profound, do you want doug jones, a liberal, roy moore? they re voting on are we ready to make the leap into the new south? we have been talking about the south for 30 years t. question is this state has been defined by national politics for 30 years t. question for them is a question about identity, what image do we want of the state in the country and doug jones for all of the things that might be wrong with him ideologically, he represents state with a degree of respectful choice where roy moore is not. i understand what hal rhames is sake, i m not saying this to troll steve bannon, you look at the university of alabama what that school has done, the progress in the sciences, you look at the merit scholars to come there. you look at the level of graduates. you look around this city. you. you think of the restaurants here the culture here the commerce here. oh, birmingham has a great
to john s point, a core battle between the culture as it has existed and the culture as they want it to be. with the, as soon as i got off the plane yesterday, a gentleman an elderly gentleman at the airport comes up to me and he says, this is going to be a race. i looked over and said, yeah, it is. he said, do you know, but the culture here doesn t want to change. so it goes to, you know, he starts talking about how back when he was a young man how things were and how certain things were send and how other things kind of slipped by. that s the fight, joe, at the end of the day, that ying and that yang. you say you want a change, willie, it s like in new york city, there are a thousand different cull cures, in alabama, there are a lot of different cultures. there is a different culture in birmingham. there is a different culture you know in fair haute than in montgomery. a lot of different moving parts here today. it showed that way in the
extraordinary culture, a great southern culture. you look at what s happening over in tuck loose sarks i m not saying this as an advertisement for alabama. i m saying, this is what people are thinking. you make progress here. i remember talking to bob reilly. bob said he turned on the tv set and saw protests. but the protests were in germany. because they were moving mercedes manufacturing plants to tuscaloosa county. you know what, tuck loose sa county did is up a great job. i think they were the most profitable mercedes plant in the word, so they got them another class of cars. this is a state that s transforming. so that question that you are talking about is a question that certainly some people are looking at. they say, do we want what happened in north korea, what happened in indiana hang here? maybe i ll hold my nose and vote for alabama even if i m not with doug jones? that s the big leap. all that aside, you still have,