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government worker? that s the difference. how do you measure government productivity, you know, the number of checks they send out, perhaps, the number of people taken off of welfare. government doesn t measure productivity. we ve had a nearly trip link of government employees within the last 50 years without a ka men s right gain in productivity. you had big, big increases in state, federal and local spending. jon: it really affects the states. california it is pointed out in this op ed piece in the journal california has 2.4 million government workers twice as many as it has manufacturing. sure they just can t afford that. about half the bill of state and local governments, the total spending is in fact for employees. it s for the workers. so until we get that under control, and that s the debate you re seeing across the country. jon: that s the wisconsin debate. jenna: it s the wisconsin debate, it s the ohio debate,

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