You assurance? no, no, no. reporter: at this point. it is not known if a deal was reached or whether money was exchanged for the proposed plan of forced extradition. the december meeting following revelations of discussions months before. former cia director james woolsey was attending the meeting and potential ways to get goulin back for charges. there was a strong suggestion of one or more of the americans present at the meeting to the turks that we would be able, the united states would be able through them to get hold of goulan. reporter: at the time, the spokesperson for flynn denies. erdogan blamed a failed military tip on goulan who has been living in the compound in pennsylvania.
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Who lives in exile in pennsylvania. when you talk about putin and erdogan, they are in their own ways kind of populist authoritarian ruler who is have kind of really block by block taken apart the fundamentals of democracy, whether they existed in those two countries is another question. do you see trump in that same category? the united states is a consolidated democracy and there s massive constraints on what the president can do. but to be very clear, trump s appointed a designated national security adviser has said goulin, we should send him back to turkey. that doesn t follow the rule of law that you haven t shown us evidence so we re not going to do that.
In. so countries around the world are acting accordingly and they re pursuing their own interests and their own objectives. so for the turks, this will be an opportunity if they want to to crack down further on their opposition, on civil society, that s what they ve been doing over the last year. they re pointing to goulin, who is part of a movement in the turkish government. there is no word he was involved. we ll have to wait and see. for russians it s a very simple calculation. they see all terrorists as the same. this is the perfect justification for that. the irony of this situation is this attacker, this assassin, apparently wanted to drive a wedge between turkey and russia who are meeting tomorrow in moscow with the iranians to decide what to do with syria, and in effect t might bring them closer together, not farther apart. and sarah, let me ask you about something having more to do with politics. john podesta, the clinton campaign chair, was on meet the