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Force on anything its senseless, not practical and not safe. We look at everything from training, deescalation of conflict to alternative use from a weapon. The same thing. So, um, the minimum amount of force necessary to address the threat, right, will always be seen as the reasonable amount of force necessary. You dont see a difference. No. What about the Officers Union concerns . You know, i think everybodys this whole situation has left everybody very raw right now. How many more [ indiscernible ] has to die, get killed . Take time to make [ indiscernible ] theres something inherent about how we use force to address. The chief is talking about using shields. To disarm them. Reporter the chiefs other idea is getting pushback from the other side. The think the officers should have tasers i think the officers should have tasers. They talking about it. The reality is that tasers can be lethal reporter so its completely uncertain as to when or where or even if the Police Commission is g

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