candidates to run against the republican who is defied him, a sort of authoritarian revenge tour. here s the news tonight as we approach tomorrow s primary. fresh signs that tour may fail. trump s hand picked challenger to the governor, backing the big lie by claiming that the actual winner joe biden stole the race. first off, folks, let me be very clear tonight the election in 2020 was rigged and stolen. all that started right here in georgia when our governor caved and allowed radical democrats to steal our election. so, that s what trump s candidate perdue is selling, and trump s using his mega phone to brand the incumbent governor, kemp, as a turncoat or coward. but trump s not pulling out all the stops to campaign for him, instead offering a telerally for perdue tonight, and that bring us to the facts portion of this little interscene primary brawl. how is this actually playing in republican primary where we ve heard from politicos and d.c. elites so much about don
problem. and it s not just trump and the people around him, but also trump supporters. millions of people buy into these very same lies. i think it s part of a broader picture here of a country, and very cprominent people within that country not being able to tell fact from fiction. in the case with a people with a responsibility to tell the truth, not being willing to do the right thing and follow the law. that s the story of rudy giuliani, but also the story of so many other people who are part of this sad saga. that s such a good point. the difference, and i know you were getting to this, is that giuliani isn t just a consumer of these lies. he was a chief peddler of these lies, not just to america, but he was egging the former president on. and we spent a lot of time talking to the former new york city mayor during the trump
venezuelans who were alice of chavez. let s have trial by combat! and combat there was on january 6th. the panel reportedly wanting giuliani to go under oath about that line as well as his other plots and things that he did that are not covered by attorney/client privilege which would certainly include any illegal coup plotting. meanwhile, the fact that donald trump s really most visible advocate for this stuff who was in the foxhole to the end, he s testifying. he s not climbing privilege over everything, and that puts new heat on bannon and peter navarro who we both covered and interviewed on this program held in contempt over their claims that they think that they have an executive privilege that even giuliani isn t using, even for all his testimony. now, when we come back, as promised, we explain why the one and only gayle king actually crashed on msnbc. d only gayle ky crashed on msnbc ads to a better. and that better life. .starts at miracle-ear.
been in the era of donald trump. giuliani is ostensibly trump s personal lawyer, but remember even though rudy says donald trump is his only client, he is not being paid by the president. giuliani says he s working pro bono, which raises the question why would giuliani take on trump as a charity case? i mean we know he needs money. last month giuliani butt dialed an nbc news reporter and could be heard saying, the problem is we need some money, and we need a few hundred thousand. here s the krush thing to understand. the fact that giuliani isn t getting paid by trump doesn t mean he isn t profiting off him. today the new york times reported while he was doing trump s bidding in ukraine, trying to drum up dirt on the bidens, giuliani was also pursuing deals worth in total at least half a billion dollars.
but, again, i think the time we talked about giuliani, right? he is the tie to all of this, right. people are obviously engaging with giuliani at various times and the president obviously telling people that giuliani is the point person. so this idea that they can sort of insulate giuliani from the president, that giuliani isn t directly representing what the president wants in this some call it scheme, quid pro quo, in terms of the holdup of the money and the deliverable from zelensky and the ukraines. it s very hard to separate the president from this given what giuliani has said and given that the president over and over again says talk to rudy, talk to rudy. he is the point guy on this. you know, there is this very interesting parallel between what went on with the money to stormy daniels and karen mcdougal before the end of the campaign. michael cohen was the executer of that the delivery of that money, and the president or the