room right up until, i was there actually for the first two years that the jury were deliberating, so i sat through all of the testimony, i saw the jurors faces, and the defence was extremely aggressive, ghislaine maxwell puzzlement lawyers are very skilled and very competent, very expensive, and they set out to destroy the credibility of the four women who accused her, and they were helped actually to some degree by the fact that each of the women had been interviewed by the fbi previously, not about ghislaine maxwell, but about jeffrey epstein, whenjeffrey epstein was alive. so what they had said about glenn maxwell was perhaps different, we hadn t mentioned her at all because we were talking about jeffrey epstein. jeffrey