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Necessary would be to say look, groups that get taxpayer money, should they be able to lobby at all? what is happening is that we re giving these organizations money and then they are using that money to lobby to get even more money. that is something taxpayers might find most offensive by this process. martha: thank you very much, steve moore joining us from washing tonight. gregg: what fate will edwards face? jury deliberations underway right now. the former senator is about to hear from the jurors in north carolina. martha: it will take them nearly four hours, four hours to float up into the stratosphere and then a couple of minutes to plummet back to the earth. we are talking to felix baumgartner ahead of his fall from space. ....

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