whose book just out this fall the man who ran washington the life and times of james baker the third. of two brilliant books about it too complicated and fascinating men. they were born a decade apart. baker in houston in 1930 and holbrook 1941 holbrook a democrat, student of foreign policy. their lives had different trajectories but they both ended up in washington. picking up on that, this is a man with great ambition and even before he came to washington. he was expected to do great things. he had a very dominating father who imparted on him the legacy of his family. one thing they were not meant to do his politics. they break away from his father s domination and at age 40 he suffers a great family tragedy. his wife dies of cancer and the tennis court helps pick him up from the george hw bush on a whole different odyssey that put them in the center of world events. host: george i m going to be going back and forth because the stories of the books are so rich we could go
and what the tapes did and did not reveal. this is an hour and a half. we re not talking about current events. and we re not really focusing on the chronology of watergate because what i m trying to tell you is what went on behind the scenes, the back story, both of developments at the white house itself where i worked and the special prosecutor s office, where i ve done a tremendous amount of research in finding out what their thinking was and what the documents show. so it s an insider cea s view, i m the insider. so i m responsible for all of the views. let s take a quick review of the preceding nine presentations. so i can try to convince you this has all made sense. the first week we introduced some people and then we ended with three surprising revelations. there were secret meetings going on between the judges and the prosecutors, a lot of them. and you don t know which is the bigger surprise, that they were meeting in secret or writing memos about their agreements.
with some breaking news. the president of the university of pennsylvania has resigned. liz mcgill, facing calls to step down over her testimony on capitol hill this week. republicans have accused her of downplaying campus antisemitism in this exchange with congresswoman, elise stefanik. specifically calling for the genocide of jews, does that constitute bullying, or harassment? if it is direct, and severe it is harassment. if it becomes a means beautiful conduct it s harassment. in the chair of the house education committee, they applauded mcgill s announcement. this is how she remains on the faculty until a replacement is found. the statement reading, in part, quote, it has been my privilege to serve as president of this remarkable institution. nbc joins me now with the latest. george? alicia, the reaction on campus is a mixed bag right now. some students getting word that liz has stepped down, and also stepping, down tonight, the chair of the board of trustees, scot
stick to that bullying harassment? if the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment. stefanik and the chair of the house education committee have both applauded liz magill s announcement and served as president until a replacement is found. liz magill s statement reading in part, it is been my privilege to serve as part of this remarkable institution. joins me now from philadelphia with the latest. george? yeah, alicia, the reaction here on campus is a mixed bag right now. some students are just getting word that liz magill has stepped down, and is also stepping down tonight, the chair of the board of trustees, and mind you, pressure has been growing here for the resignation, following that grilling on capitol hill, and liz magill putting out an apology of sorts, putting out where she clarified mainly her response to that question about genocide, saying it was time to review some of upenn s policies. unfortunately, rise of antisemitic activity and rhetor
undoes. we come on air with some breaking news. the president of the university of pennsylvania has resigned. liz mcgill was facing calls to step down over her testimony on capitol hill this week. republicans have accused her of downplaying campus antisemitism in this exchange with congresswoman elise to fonac. specifically calling for the genocide of jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment? if it is directed and severe or pervasive, it is harassment. if the speech becomes conduct, it can be harassment. stefanik and the chair of the house education committee both applauded mcgill s announcement. they say they will until replacement is found. mcgill statement reading in part, quote, it has been my privilege to serve as president of this remarkable institution. nbc s george soliz joins me now from philadelphia with the latest. george? yeah alicia, the reaction here on campus is a mixed bag right now. some students just getting word that nicholas step down, a