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Rapid pullout. The pakistanis came into view that america was not in the region for a long time. They continued backing thinking that india would fill up the void. You know i do think it lookslooked like we were not even going to have troops in afghanistan. We backed up a bit on that because we saw how bad it was. I think certainly if we continue to deescalate afghanistan is going to fall apart and also going to have tremendously damaging ramifications in pakistan where we have great interest now, critics would say it was a hopeless case and the start. We put in the wrong person president karzai who was hopelessly corrupt. The ama, Afghan National army was corrupt and incompetent like his iraqi counterpart. What were looking at them allmore we are really seeing is societies and countries which are in a state of extended collapse and failure and there is nothing the United States could have done to pass the situation out. Trying to establish democracy in afghanistan and iraq was a fools

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