absolutely, john. we heard from the chancellor there saying he can t fully understand putin s war logic. he did have what he described as a frank and tough discussion with the russian president. he said he wanted to confront him with the realities on ground. he did of course visit bucha where we saw those atrocities unfold, what has now been described as war crimes. he said he wanted to confront president putin with these realities. but as you heard there from nehammer, russian president vladimir putin believes he is winning this war. he still believes this war is necessary in order to ensure russia s security guarantees. that is the message we ve been hearing from the kremlin since the beginning of this invasion. but the second key message we ve been hearing from the kremlin is that they are fighting what they ve described as a geneocid in the donbas region. putin telling nehammer that. he continues to reiterate that. that of course comes as we hear