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the european interest to do more and there is no excuse why european countries should not pay two percent we have to be very clear that you know two percent is actually when compared to the other options that europe has a fairly cheap way of guaranteeing security if for example the americans left you know and abandoned europe and withdrew the security guarantees two percent is not what the europeans will be spending it will be far more so they need to consider what s in their own interest the bottom line here is that two percent defense spending is in europe s interest it is in the security interest of the europeans it s not that you do trump a favor even though donald trump has kind of frame that this way for his home audience and now the europeans have to make that bold step and actually explain to their audiences back home why it is actually in their interest because the need for it given the strategic situation in europe is quite clearly though would you agree with me mr gelb that

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