than previous surges. that s success. so we need to talk about vaccines and what we should have reasonable expectations for and reset that for the country so psychologically we can really start to move forward. how do you feel, how should we feel, if you re walking out of your house today with two vaccines and a booster shot, should you feel comfortable going and sitting inside a restaurant and eating indoors without a mask? should you feel comfortable in an exercise class indoors with other people? yes. in my opinion, yes, absolutely, understanding, and this is the key qualification, that there s no such thing as zero risk. every cold and flu season, katy, you don t want me to talk about this, but there s probably 20 flu virus respiratory viruses that you probably never heard of, nor have your viewers. that s what i geek out on. you may never have third of them. they cause a sore throat, runny nose, but that s it. that s what we re hoping covid