Joining me now live isjean lee. Shes the former Ap Pyongyang Bureau chief and current co host of the bbc podcast the lazarus heist. Thank you for being back on the programme. Whats the significance of this potential deal between two countries that are becoming even more isolated on the world stage . I think you laid it out. If the two leaders do meet and arrange a deal of some sort, this is a deal that is possibly going to help the russian resident extend that war ukraine by supplying him with munitions and in exchange possibly food that north korea needs, but beyond that, quite possibly technology that north korea needs to take its Weapons Programme to the next level and that certainly has implications that certainly has implications that have a far greater reach because it is about Nuclear Proliferation and so it may be that the leaders meet, they hold a high level summit, lots of pomp and propaganda, but it will be interesting to see what they say about the deals that come up but i