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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240707

everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? it was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new in. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson arizona and here, in the shadows of the majestic saguaros you will find a thriving metropolis of 1 million people, with a surprising small town feel. it s the kind of place where everyone seems to know everyone. and if you ask anyone from tucson where they were on november 1st, 1996, they will tell you it was the day of a murder. so dramatic, so horrific they will never f

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:48:00

anything that i thought that made her rise to the level of a suspect. reporter: and ron young was still somewhere in the wind. so safe to say this goes cold? yes. reporter: in january of 1997, pam phillips received her life insurance payment. $2 million. plus interest. did that insurance money give panda lifestyle back? for a short while, yes. $2 million does not go far and. aspen reporter: pam bought herself a house, 1 million dollar fixer upper. and with her exquisite taste, she turned it into a beautiful house. reporter: in fact, her deck was featured in the glossy aspen sojourner magazine. she was dabbling in real estate and trying to make starbabies. com a success. to help with the website, she invited gary s daughter, heather triano to come live with her in aspen.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:55:00

been 17 years, five months, and one day since gary triano and the life he lived had parted company. now each side had one last chance. the defense insisted that investigators had blinders on when they went after pam phillips, carelessly ignoring other possible leaves like neil who had openly wished gary triano dead. there is plenty of proof that we have summoned that there is a reasonable doubt. the state went after the easy the woman who got a 2 million dollar insurance policy, and the guy that was extorting her. but, said the prosecutor, the idea that any one else was responsible for this murder, other than pam and her coconspirator ron young was just pure fantasy. it makes for a good story that neil

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:07:00

gary triano. it ron young was flown back to tucson, lupita murillo is one of the people who like to greet visitors at the airport. good to be back in tucson, sir? well not so good. did you kill gary triano sir? did you place that bomb? no, of course not. is pam phillips your accomplice? where was pam phillips? it turns out, she may have outsmarted everyone. by leaving the united states, just one month before authorities filed arrest warrants for her and ron young. she took what we believe was an innocent trip to switzerland, to visit her daughter. and she decided what, i m not coming back? i think when the news broke she made a conscious decision it would be best for her to stay in europe. but if you think she was living a rough life as a fugitive, think again. our cameras caught it

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210925 08:55:00

april 2nd, 2014, it had been 17 years, five months, and one day since gary triano and the life he lived had parted company. now, each side had one last chance. the defense insisted that investigators had blinders on when they went after pam phillips, carelessly ignoring other possible leads like neil mcneice, who had openly wished gary triano dead. there s plenty of proof that we have shown, that there s a reasonable doubt, and the state went after the easy marks, the woman who got a $2 million insurance policy and the guy that was extorting her. but, said the prosecutor, the idea that anyone else was responsible for this murder, other than pam and her co-conspirator ron young, was just pure fantasy. it makes for a good story,

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