Figure out the scope of this. But they are confirming if you go to their website, you can see theres a very brief statement about what they know for sure right now. If you think, if you think that your information might be out there, theyre going to give free credit monitoring service. If the money comes out of your account or sput fraudulently on your credit card, they are going to reburst you. It is still a pain, were trying to figure out the scope of it. This has been going on since april. This has been going on for five months. Now brian krebs, the krebs on security blogger said that banks over the past few days, are reporting to him, a steep increase in fraudulent atm withdrawals. Please check your accounts now. Thats whey wanted to get to you with, mark, the fact that as christina suggesting, as ive been reading up. It says that home depot began their investigation when they were contacted by banks and Law Enforcement about this possibility. So does that suggest that clearly the
most closely. if you don t interview those, it s not a complete picture. gary, i want to ask you about khalid sheikh mohammed. there are other reports that say that the enhanced interrogation techniques or torture as some people call them actually only produces faulty and fabricated information. so here is what the report says about khalid sheikh mohammed. it says that the interrogators first began threatening ksm s children. on march 9th, 2003, ksm fabricated information, indicating that jaf ar altayyar and jose padilla were planning something because he explained he felt some pressure 0 to produce information about the operations in the united states in the initial phases of the interrogation. he admits he was fabricating information because he was subjected to some of these tactics. the report was written by a group of people that had a political agenda. it wasn t balanced in its writing and they didn t interview everybody.
it s, yeah, can you read the report all day long and i think that it s, think the report is a hit job on the agency. and i think that it could have been more balanced, there could have been more balance in its writing. they should have interviewed the people. based on the report, the agency looks like every single line looks like incompetence, brutality and it looks like the program is worth nothing at all. i refuse to believe that understanding that throughout the work of my career, during 20 years, i saw a foreign governments using terror against some of our sources and breaking some of them at times. i ve seen governments that were friendly to the united states using coercive methods and getting information that was useful and allowed the capture of people that saved american lives. it s a mixed bag. you need to have really smart people managing these programs, good common sense in this and if you ve got information to provide openly, you ve got to be able to check that information
jawbreaker gary bernson. there are so many conflicting reports about whether or not these enhanced intern gags techniques worked or whether they didn t and whether they did help to find osama bin laden. what do you believe? i believe when you re questioning a terrorist, you ve got to have a lot of tools. i don t support torture, but i do support something more than the second amendment and something more than the army s field manual for questioning people. because what we have there really clearly doesn t cover all eventualities. in this particular case you ve got to have establishing rapport with some of these people works. in other places you got to put pressure. we got terrorists when we capture, when we capture them, they tell us, when we re released, we re going to kill your wives and children. they tell us that, that s the attitude you ve got facing these guys, some of them you re going to have to put pressure on,
and was cooperative from the outset. gary, after that, he was stripped, he was chained to a wall for 40 minutes with his hands over his head and that didn t provide any more information. in some cases, coercive mechanisms, in others, they don t. it s a mixed bag, alisyn. but the fact is you ve got to have people to have good judgment who are managing these programs, and clearly, there were mistakes that were made, but the reality is the people that were doing, that were involved in this process, didn t believe him in the beginning and moved to a second phase. was it a mistake in that case? maybe. but again unless the problem with the report is they didn t interview the people involved. if you re just looking at paper, maybe half of what goes on goes on paper. but if you ve got a 12-hour interrogation center, do you think they covered every minute? 1,000 pages per interrogation. you ve got to talk to the interrogator, the case officers and the chiefs of station that are managing these