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we basically assumed he did. i think the wisdom of that policy is shown of how difficult it would be if gadhafi in addition to his conventional forces, he had weapons of mass destruction and could threaten to use chemical weapons on his own people. that is a crisis that would dwarf what we re currently concerned about. i think it was a good deal to have been, to have made. we tried to at that time, push him in the direction of reform and democracy and obviously that was a fool s errand. david gregory asked a question of bill daley yesterday on meet the press. is it in the american national interest to remove gadhafi or is this something with two wars going on that is really beyond our immediate concern? i think it s very much in our interest. we have an interest as a nation in seeing freedom advance. a world in which freedom spreads. a world that is more in our