we are hearing that. we have heard from him. he has 500 pending cases. we did hear a very good question that he was asked, which is, are you going to be looking at those people in and around the president former president, maybe even sitting members of congress? are you getting up to that big level? he would not respond because i m trying to read the tea leaves. he said very, very carefully, we have 500 pending cases. i have judges who would be very upset it i talked about the pending cases. it s not appropriate to tell you whether or not we have such high level cases. if i m going to read the tea leaves, that sounds like the answer was, yes, we are looking at anybody and anything that looks like high level playing. frank, also, the comment that s gotten a lot of attention is chairman nadler saying it s high time the fbi conduct an internal review of white
frank, what do you make of what you have heard so far in this hearing? a few things. ken has touched on one of the larger issues. it s why these public oversight hearings tend to disappoint so many of us. they tend not to get into the serious questions and answers. for that, it s really, what change is necessary at the fbi in terms of rules of the road, in terms of collecting, gathering and disseminating information about threats so we can prevent the next act of domestic terrorism, whether it s another event at the capitol or somewhere else. i don t see how the head of the fbi can sit there and say truthfully that domestic terrorism is the number one threat, it s akin to the international threat, big statements without answering how we re going to prevent the next act of domestic terrorism.
nbc news national security correspond enter ken dilanian has been listening to the hearing. we are joined by frank fragluzi, he is an msnb national security contributor. ken, let me start with you. you noted the chairman s comments about the fbi inaction on january he called it baffling. why did that jump out to you? what else have you heard? reporter: that was as strong as a heard a democratic senior member of congress really go right at the fbi and criticize its inaction, its intelligence failure. that stood out. what stood out is that the fbi director didn t directly respond. he did say he did make news in saying that none of the 500 people they have charged so far in the insurrection had been under investigation by the fbi. the point he was trying to make is, it was hard to predict. these are people that weren t on
ask director wray, if we had seen al qaeda sympathizers about arresting members of congress, bringing maps, would the fbi act on that? explain that. explain to the public whether he needs more authority to, as frank said, prevent the next domestic terrorism attack. great conversation, gentlemen. ken, thanks, as always. frank, thank you as well. this morning, there s new fallout from this week s senate report on the deadly january 6 insurrection. it could mean another shakeup for capitol police leadership. the union now calling on its acting chief to step down. garrett haake following the new
wants, he can fire him on twitter the way he did rex tillerson or dan coats we have to wait and do more reporting. thank you so much. always great to have you. thanks for calling in. thank you, frank, for calling in as we had this breaking news hit. hans and nick, thank you. appreciate all of you. we re counting down to the next democratic sdays away. john delaney joins us live trump s attacks against congress people of color. congress people of color. you need. nice. but, uh. what s up with your. partner?