it. they have got security to get up to the floor. it s not like they are not trying and they are not i paying attention, and they are not there. but you saw what happened today when all of them are there. it s incredible. will you be back on monday with us? i will. tell us what happened every day. that s your chair. frank, vaughn, thank you. susan craig, thank you. a reminder for headlines and analysis of the trial, you can subscribe to the deadline legal newsletter. scan the qr code so you can have it delivered to your inbox. up next for us, our reporter is outside the courthouse making her way to the cam a ra. more on the last hour of the hearing. another quick break. don t go anywhere. we ll be right back. break. don t go anywhere. we ll be right back.
everyone s back with us. frank, i want to press you on this idea that jurors should be different, right, than political actors and trump s political adversaries. but there s already indication in the way his allies are acting on conservative media that they won t be treated differently. yeah, we ve had similar discussions around election workers, right, and their safety. somebody just raising their hand saying i ll help, i ll do my civic duty. it s similar with jurors. in this case again not being just another jury, i would hope, and we should not be privy to all the security concerns that are in place, i don t want to know, and i don t want it to leak. but this is not just a physical security job. this is also intelligence challenge. and nypd has a very robust intelligence operation. i ve worked with them, it s impressive. i hope they re in full gear for this.
intention to sets himself on fire in advance. there is no apparent or direct connection to precisely what s happening inside the courtroom. the situation today, though, does raise concerns for those in and around the courtroom about their personal safety and the personal safety and security for jury members and court officials and the press. everyone associated with this unprecedented criminal trial of an ex-american president. joining our coverage, former assistants director for counterintelligence at the fbi, frank fiblusi is here. vaughn, sue, and the rev with us. this is obviously a tragic incident for this individual and his family. this is also an incredibly protected space, not just in new york but i can t imagine there s a more protected space anywhere on the planet right now. your thoughts. yeah, this is going to be the cause of some reflection. you heard today in the press
security. but an international audience of hundreds of millions of people does present a platform for violence or other things to happen. and there have been incidents at football games. people parachute into the stadium. they do all kinds of things. that has to be considered. we heard the new york officials at the press conference say that this park across from the courthouse was a place for protesters, but also a place they wanted to keep open. it s not secure. you don t have to go through a security check to get into that. and i predict they re going to take a hard look at that. you know, yeah, it s rough to impede new york pedestrian traffic for six weeks. i get that. but you know what s rougher? having an environment where america can t put a former president, a presidential candidate now, on trial in its own justice system. it s iconic. it s very american, and it needs to be treated as such. frank, we haven t had a chance to talk to you since our coverage earlier in the week of