of these state democrats if they re newbies. right. some of them are subject to recall and some of them aren t because they have staggered terms. not all of them can be recalled, but some of them can. megyn: interesting. that s also a possibility, i guess. we ll see whether the people of wisconsin are behind the democrats, as many have said they are. where the majorities lie, we ll see. richard esenberg, thank you for your expertise. thank you. megyn: the obama administration announcing it will no longer defend a federal law that s on the books. the defense of marriage act. this defines marriage as between a man and a woman. it was passed under and signed into law by president clinton. president obama has made no secret of the fact that he doesn t like the law. he believes that it refuses to give the same rights to gays
politically? i don t know if voters will remember something that happened two years before. but i will say this. if you are concerned about kids and learning which i would hope the teachers union president is, i know many teachers union officials are, you don t help kids by calling in sick. i think the strongest argument the unions have here, and particularly the teachers union is this isn t going to help kids and this is politics. but he played into your hands. that s unfortunate. megyn: what i what you saying to him was a lot of our viewers are empathetic towards these protesters. they are middle class union folks and they don t like what s being done. some do but some don t. they don t like lying. and when you see the teachers not willing to take responsibility for what they are doing it s one thing to say i m going protest and let the chips fall where they may. it s another when you say i m
one of the things is this. this governor is not allowing people to get together and try to improve teaching and learning in our schools. we do that at bargaining table. megyn: i want to know as head of the teachers union that is something you are behind. i ll tell you what i am behind within i m behind oh posing this governor meg our viewers can make up their own minds on where you stand on that. megyn: the question is should union leaders come out and disavow can takes like that and hugh do these rallies play politically. susan estrich is a former michael dukakis campaign manager. the guy wouldn t answer. i don t know why he didn t say i don t condone fraud. but he wouldn t say the. and you aren t hearing other union leaders say it. is that the kind of thing voters will remember when they are choosing sides in this
megyn: days after the white house blew off reports that they had a hand in the union protests playing out in states like wisconsin and ohio, we have new video raising new questions about big labor and its relationship with the obama administration. take a listen to what one of the presidents of the most powerful union in the country says about his relationship with the white house. how often do you and the white house have conversations? conversations or be at? megyn: monica crowley, radio
poking bears that are sleeping that they want to wake. megyn: this is what the unions have always been about. the left wing base is disspirited with obama, disspirited about guantanamo bay and the rest. so it performs a political function with the white house. megyn: that s a good segue. i have to go, but i have to ask you about this breaking news, the administration deciding to declare that the defense of marriage act, which defines marriage as between a man and a woman, signed by president clinton, declared it unconstitutional and said they will no longer enforce it. reporter: it s beyond belief. we re a nation of laws, not men. we re governed by the rule of law. what the constitution says is that the president of the united states doesn t get to decide which laws he likes and which ones he will enforce. he s the chief executive. the law is on the books, doma.