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About that as well and shed more light. thank you. thank you. shannon: texas republican senator kay bailey hutchison plans to say in the senate until the healthcare effort is defeat and says she will stay a senator for eight months more if congress is still debating healthcare. she s challenging governor rick perry in the republican primary has no firm deadline for resigning. the lonestar state might be the battleground for the republican party heart and soul this year. recent rasmussen survey has perry leading hutchison 48 to 27% in the latest poll of likely g.o.p. voters with conservative activist debra medina pulling in 16%. with the state s primary two days away, how will it shake out? wayne plaiter is writer for dallas morning news and joins us from live from austin. great to see you today, wayne. great to be with you. shannon: so the deal on tuesday for at least the governor trying to avoid a potential runoff? because you hear so much about perry and hutchison, but ther ....
i know this will take it took courage to pass social security and medicare and many of the same forces that were at work decades ago are at work again against this bill. it appears dems will proceed with the process called budget reconciliation to try to push through healthcare reform without republican support. today, republicans continue to object. a bill that spends $2.5 trillion. 2500-pages. big tax increases. that is what folks are leery of. they don t want, washington making all of those decisions, especially if they think it might interfere between them and their doctor. it many coulds down to the votes here in washington. when pressed on whether the white house and dems have the votes to pass a bill the reform director saysrm correct he believes he will have the votes. what he is going to do to get there still not clear, shannon. the battle over gun rights could take another dramatic ....
Around the table, you wouldn t know who was a republican or who was a democrat. governors are talk about the innovations they put in place in their states. vermont is leading the way in many respects. we cut the number of uninsured in our state by about a quarter over the last year-and-a-half. we ve been deemed the healthiest state in america two years in a row according to national surveys. other states are doing great things as well. what i want is for governors to share those experiences. to learn from each other, to begin to implement reform at the state level. now we can t do it all, because medicaid and medicare are federally funded programs. we have to have them be a part of this. i think a lot of great things are happening already. shannon: governor, let me ask you. in the weeks and hours really leading up to that senate vote on christmas eve here in washington, if their version passed, how concerned were you about some of the deals that apparently seem to be being made that ....
Today. nice to be with you. shannon: let me ask you, would you have liked a seat at the table? well, i certainly want a seat at some table. it s not about one meeting this week, but a process over the next weeks and months. it made it clear to the president when he met with the nation s governors last week we have to implement whatever is passed by the congress. it s important to get it right and to learn from the experience that states have. a lot of states have been doing exciting things, innovating across the board, improving the health outcome for people they represent. and we certainly need to make sure that that experience of the governors is part of the process here. shannon: governor, you said you re not going to wait on washington to try to fix this problem and that governors will be the ones who come up with different ideas. you mentioned some of those. what else do you plan to do moving forward while the rest of the world waits to see what d.c. is going to do? well ....
$14 billion sent there. salt lake city made money and los angeles made money, some break even. i have to tell you, if canada beats the u.s. in the gold medal match in the hockey game today, no amount of money will be too much to spend on the olympics. i got to tell you, shannon, watching over here, two-and-a-half hours away from when they drop the puck. there are people standing out, sitting in the rain in front of a big screen in a couple of hours will show the biggest hockey match this country has ever seen. shannon? shannon: absolutely. that is going to be huge. we appreciate your coverage from there. great job. thank you, shannon. shannon: more than a million people tuned in to see the president and washington lawmakers spar over healthcare reform during thursday s summit at the blair house. also, likely tuning in, well, the nation s governors who did not have a seat at the table. should the states have a bigger voice in the debate? joining us is vermont governor douglas, cha ....