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you re absolutely right richard. i would have to say most pilots separate their family physician from their flight physician. it s rarely the same person. in some cases, the family physician or psychiatrist has no idea their patient is actually a pilot. there s no communication there that would normally take place. there are fail saves however. there s an faa hotline. if you know somebody that s having a problem, many calls are made to this hotline to check this airman to make sure they re okay. i want to ask john. sorry. do you have you or do you know of anybody who s ever used that line? that s a good question. i know third and fourth hand of people who have used that line from another carrier. they were concerned enough ....