tim, let s go to you. you know a little bit about this. i.c.e. are now going to court houses in order to nab some of these illegal immigrants. the argument is, people aren t going to report crimes because they might be illegal immigrants and they are going to these courthouses and then they are going to be nab, too. is that happening? it s a great policy. i signed it. it s my policy. it i.c.e. s policy not to arrest the victims and witnesses of crimes, and no one me one example that we have arrested a victim or witness of a crime in court. the guidance is clear. laura: allen? that is not what we are seeing. we are getting the low-hanging fruit in a courtroom and what it s doing is keeping people from doing lawful things. the immigrants that are here, and the judicial process, who deserve due process, as you said before in your former segment, are getting stopped and detained in court before they have their day in court. they may have been charged but they haven t fully been found
calls to o abolish i.c.e. immigration and customs enforcement agency. take a listen to president trump last night. a vote for troy s opponent is a vote for open borders which equals massive crime. like they don t care about it. they don t care about the crime. the new platform of the democrat party is to abolish i.c.e. and let s not worry about crime. really? doesn t work that way. do you support the abolishment of i.c.e. first of all, i think what the president says is silly exaggeration, i guess that happens in politics from time to time. i think we clearly need we clearly need secure borders, there s not a single democrat i know or have heard about who talks about there are democrats calling for the abolishment and replacement of i.c.e. though. we clearly need some alternative to the policies in i.c.e. whether you call it i.c.e. or something else, the
let s not worry about crime. really? doesn t work that way. do you support the abolishment of i.c. snerks. first of all, i think what the president says is littsilly exaggeration, i guess that happens in politics from time to time. i think we clearly need we clearly need secure borders, there s not a single democrat i know or have heard about who talks about there are democrats calling for the abolishment and replacement of i.c.e. though. we clearly need some alternative to the policies in i.c.e. whether you call it i.c.e. or something else, the sadistic policies and practices of i.c.e. today have got to go. separating families, the walking away from daca, the deportation of spouses of immigrants who serve in the military today. really? there s we are better than
execution of this plan, is it i.c.e. s fault? it makes a nice sound bite to say let s just abolish i.c.e. that clearly is a political attack that some in the political debate are taking. i taught a course at georgetown law on intelligence and all the agencies that were created and changed after september 11th and dhs and the creation of i.c.e. was one of those entities where we had post 9/11 entities that were directed towards terrorism and bolstering our homeland security and they were created. we are now over 15 years past that point. so it s time of modification. is it fair to be asking the questions about do we need to restructure, are these agencies implementing restructuring is different than abolishing. it doesn t make a lot of sense to say we are going to abolish the agency. you need to have an immigration agency who processes people who want to come here, those who come illegally and need to be
showing some protesters are bragging about immigration status, some were bragging about being there illegally. when you see someone who is in violation of the law or at least going to brag about it, bragging about being in violation of the law, you could have law enforcement calling on you. that is when rinaldi said he called it i.c.e. and that was at. they had been trying to drown out lawmakers. they were being disruptive to the process in austin. of course, people are there to get business done. so, when you are doing out, and the chamber, yes, you are being escorted out. don t brag about breaking the law and did not expect martha: that is not too smart. actually, martha, the people in the gallery who were protesting proved to be much better american citizens and certainly legislator rinaldi did. his colleagues who threaten violence against each other. martha: excuse me, robert robert go ahead, robert. seriously, dana. the reality i am sorry, bobby. that s better.