Volume 1, 193. He lied three times. Why didnt you charge him with a crime . I cant get into internal deliberations as to what or would not be you charged a lot of people from making false statements. Lets remember this. In 2016 the fbi did something they probably havent done before. They spied on two american citizens associated with the president ial campaign. George papadopoulos and carter page. Was carter page who then went to the g the fisa court. With mr. Papadopoulos they didnt go to the court. They used human sources. From about the moment papadopoulos joins the Trump Campaign you have all of these people All Around The World starting to swirl around him. Names like halper, downer, misfeud, thompson. Meeting in rome, london, all
kinds of places and the fbi even sent a lady posing as somebody else. Went by the name turk to spy on papadopoulos. In one of the meetings he is talking to a foreign diplomat and he says that the russians have dirt on clinton. That Diplomat Contacts the
sir? let me go to the next one. the president quote criticized mcgahn for telling your office about the june 17th, 2017 events when he told mcgahn to have you removed, correct? correct. in other words, the president was criticizing his white house counsel for telling law enforcement officials what he believed to be the truth. again go back to the text of the report. well, let me go a little bit further. would it have been a crime if mr. mcgahn had lied to you about the president ordering him to fire you? i don t want to speculate. okay. is it true that you charged multiple people associated with the president for lying to you during your investigation? that is accurate. the president also complained that his staff were taking notes during the meeting about firing mcgahn, is that
what was the question, sir? if i might. let me go to the next one. the president quote criticized mcgahn for telling your office about the june 17, 2017, events when he told mcgahn to have you removed, correct? correct. in other words, the president was criticizing his white house counsel for telling law enforcement officials what he believed to be the truth. again, i go back to the text of the report. well, let me go further. would it have been a crime if mr. mcgahn lied about the president ordering you to fire you? i don t want to speculate. okay. is it true that you charged multiple people associated with the president for lying to you during your investigation? that is accurate. the president complained that his staff were taking notes during the meeting about firing
than that? where is the legal line? so, again, it s all about his intent, what his whether he s doing it in order to call off the investigation or to try to stop it. and so with mcgahn, since he s firing mcgahn after the fact again, the damage as far as trump is concerned with mcgahn has been done. he went in a room with robert mueller and spilled the beans for 30 hours. so, again, trump may be upset about that. if he s firing mcgahn because of that, it s not obstruction. it s evidence that he s scared but that in itself wouldn t be a crime. ashley, i hear winter is coming, not just winter as in the season, but winter for the president in terms of his legal worries. you write today, one source of growing anxiety among trump allies is the worry that the president and some senior white house officials are notages