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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:29:00

Third, i think he is trying to intimidate chris wray and the fbi to try and prevent them from actually doing their work, investigating these leads as appropriate. the fact that the republicans are doing, this really is so surreal. republicans for so many years were known as the law and order party. the ones that were defending the law enforcement officers, the fbi, intelligence officials, and now the democrats are coming to the aid and rescue of the fbi intelligence community as a way to protect these institutions so that they are able to do their work despite the fact that they are being so condemned unfairly by these republican members of congress who only have their own very hyper partisan agendas as their goal. my concern is that institutional integrity has to be bipartisan, right? it s good that the democrats are trying to russian and preserve these important institutions of democracy. that in and of itself is the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:11:00

this hill, the assertion that the fbi is a readout to liberals intent on targeting conservatives. it bears mentioning that fbi director chris wray is a member of the federalist society, who clerked for michael luttig. he s a dog in the wool conservative, and i love your assessment about how deep the deep state might be in the trenches of liberalism given, you know, the claims made on capitol hill today. as chris wray himself said, alex, repeatedly today, the narrative that the fbi is somehow full of liberal deep state and anti trump, anti conservatives is ludicrous. chris wray is a pro. i disagree with chris on a lot of issues, but i respect his integrity. as i do with all of the men and women in the fbi who, in my experience is a former prosecutor, go about their very

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:28:00

Subcommittees can talk about the weaponization of the federal government until they re blue in the face. without any evidence, it s meaningless. my worry is you say it enough then it then becomes meaningless even when you do have evidence, as you do in this instance with donald trump and lisa page, and peter strzok. does that concern you with all, that the gaslighting might be effective in the end? unfortunately, i think it is affecting the attitudes and sentiments of many americans. watching the testimony today by chris wray, and those questions that were being lobbed at him from the republicans. it was clear that they had several objectives. one was to put out these mischaracterizations, distortions, these lies in order for them to be replayed on the various right-wing networks, as well as for their own reelection purposes. secondly, i think that they re trying to discredit the investigations underway to really look into what donald trump did while he was in office, and then also a

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:26:00

The center hold? it s a good question. john kelly, who is a very close and colleague of mine, is also a close friend. he decided to do that job of chief of staff at the white house knowing that it was going to be difficult because he wanted to make sure that at least somebody was going to try to protect this country from ability of the abuses that donald trump might engage in. i have no doubt whatsoever that the things that john kelly has said in the statements, as well as many other things that trump is expecting more planning to do, or trying to do. if you don t have if you don t have people in the positions that are going to prevent the abuse of power by presidents and others, this is something that i think he is really going to just tear this country apart. we ve already been deeply polarized, but again, you have somebody like donald trump, who s going to be the one to select the attorney general, probably going to fire chris wray. chris wray, who has been doing

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:23:00

Director, and in this apparrent club of people targeted by the former president. dr. brennan, thank you for being here this evening. for those that had forgotten the way in which you have very plainly, volley been critical of the former president, i will read one of your choice tweets from, i believe this is march of 2018 addressed to the president at the time. when the full extent of your valid, the moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. nobody tweets like john brennan. director, it s reportedly this kind of statement that draw the ire of president trump, and basically put you on a retaliation last. can you talk about what it was like to be targeted by the president of the united states? since that time, i have been the target of many of the trump army, in terms of their animosity, their hatred, and

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