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Ford, too, doing really well here, up 40% in sales. ford could claim that it has some new brands that they are repromoting, in cars, rather than trucks. big change there g.m., up 21%. but if you back out the old lines that they are getting rid of, pontiac and saturn, they were up 43%. really good month for them. but chrysler, the one outlier here down 8%. having a hard time keeping up with all this money being thrown at consumers. they are really having more of a struggle than any other automaker. shepard: obviously the bigger the discount the less the profits for these automakers which were already bleeding cash. what does this mean for the companies we taxpayers partly own, g.m. and chrysler. g.m. has said we can turn a profit this year. they have gotten out of bankruptcy. they are in better shape. chrysler has said we are going to try to break even. there not really sure they have the fiat division they have been struggling with for a long time. also got a problem with dealers. ....