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as an excuse to build new coal mines. he was speaking at a un climate change summit where delegates are seeking ways of reducing carbon dioxide emissions. now on bbc news, it s hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. much of the world is now transitioning from locking down to living with covid 19, and that means that, in cities like london, cultural life is returning, performers are back on stage, audiences can gather to enjoy them. my guest today is the world renowned hungarian conductor and composer, ivan fischer, known for his innovative style. it has been a tough couple of years, so how easy is it to find the magic in music making? ivan fischer, welcome to hardtalk. lovely to be here. it s great to have you here in london. let me ask you how different has it been making music in the time of covid? covid had positive and negative effects on our life. the problem was that there is no audience and actually we make music for people. this is actually easy fo ....
world renowned hungarian conductor and composer ivan fischer, known for his innovative style. it has been a tough couple of years, so how easy is it to find the magic in music making? ivan fischer, welcome to hardtalk. lovely to be here. it s great to have you here in london. let me ask you, how different has it been making music in the time of covid? covid had positive and negative effects on our life. the problem was that there is no audience and actually we make music for people. this is actually easy for musicians to forget. some musicians make music to impress other musicians, and we always, i remind them, we play for the audiences, we play for the listeners. and this is what we didn t have. that was terrible. now the good thing is that, actually, it made us realise how badly we need the audiences. i think there is a streaming tiredness in the world now. because for many months after covid hit hungary, hit europe, hit the world, you created a new way of performin ....