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And obfuscate and try to manipulate, people are going to lose confidence in public health, and that is exactly the situation that we are seeing with vaccine mandates and other issues. people are not trusting the government and so we have to hold fauci accountable. shannon: and he himself let me just say this. he has actually said that there is been not full explanation and transparency about information because he was saying he didn t think the american people would do the right thing if you told him about everything. so not a shred, not a shred of evidence of fauci lying. the only one who think that our people who already had some kind of odd political feelings about fauci. what he said is we have not funded this research, nothing, nothing about what comes out today makes him seem like they funded the research. rather what happened is a company had a result, not the research, behind a result about similar concerns and reported ....