another republican who ran the c cbo after you wrote, the cbo is indispensable, but it doesn t always get it right because it s forced by law to provide assumptions. fantasy in, fantasy out. is he right? well, we all know that certain pieces of legislation can t continue unchanged. for example, social security and medicare are going to run out of money in a decade or two. and cbo has to assume that the payments are going to continue. so there are sort of requirements that adhere to rules that the congress has set for it. not, it is made up by itself. so, you know, there is an element of truth in that. but i don t think that undermines the value of what cbo does and has done in this case.
they deliver to the white house and congress the information they need. the budget committee is going to vote out the cbo score on how much the legislation will cost and business will go on. do you think that the white house has an argument here? in 2010 you said about running this organization, it doesn t always get it right the first time. you wrote an opinion piece in the new york times and said it s required to not secretary guess the plausibility of what it is handed, so fantasy in, fantasy out. does the white house have a point here? it will depend on how they score the legislation. they re bound by law to take at face value claims like in ten years we re going to cut the deficit by $500 billion.
job destroyer, this healthcare reform teal. and on top of that the idea that it reduces the deficit, i saw where a former cbo director says don t be mad at cbo because they have to score it like congress gives them and he says fantasy in, fantasy out. you have to believe in cinderella if you think this is going to reduce the deficit. in fact, it s a 2 trillion or more dollars neil: what are you challenging when you hop on with florida, the requirement that everyone pay for healthcare? that s right. the constitution limits the federal government and our government does not have, through the constitution, any authority or power to force every citizen to buy a product, whether or not that product is
york times sunday, and let s read a little of what you wrote and ask but it, douglas. how can the budget office give a green light to a bill that commits the federal government to spending nearly $1 trillion more over the next ten years? the answer, unfortunately, is that the budget office is required to take written legislation at face value and not second-guess the plausibility of what it is handed. so fantasy in, fantasy out. so some might say, hey, this is just sour grapes, republicans like, you know, love the cbo, when the numbers go their way. and the argument goes and hey, they didn t go your way, you guys are saying, well, they didn t get good numbers. explain why you believe that s not the case. well, it s not cbo s fault, but there are rules by which it has to take everything handed to it at face value. in this case that leads to three very misleading parts of the bill. number one, the congress simply left some things out. we know that we re going to have to pay medicare d
roll over and take it? because yes, it s passed, but they feel so strongly about it. and it affects so much of our economy. that is why i think they re saying it s not over. there s more we can do and we re going to fight to the death. it s not about rolling over, nobody is saying anybody should roll over but want to argue, argue on points, what do they object to, what s the alternative plan. megyn: you know the answer to that already. they ran in congress ran the congress for how many years and there was no talk of health care rep, they brought nothing to the table and contrary to what they stated, other republican amendments have been stated in this bill, they ve not been left out of the process and have lied will the about the lack of participants. mig mig the main thing is they re not ready for this comprehensive recall, it goes too far into the decifit. the cbo says no. megyn: as former director of the cbo said in an editorial, fantasy in, fantasy out with the cbo. peo