table. kristin: do you agree with how your fellow california congresswoman, speaker pelosi, how she s been handling the negotiations? i think she s in a very tough position, we are a huge tent conference, the democratic caucus is massive and our ideology runs the entire spectrum so she s in a position where you have to represent that entire spectrum and remember, we re coming off an election where the republican side closed their argument with immigration, with the fear around the caravan and it didn t work. so i think we re in a place where the people who elected us said don t give in on this, this isn t what we elected you for, and so there s a place where we have to draw the line, but i think that again, that line that we re all consistent on as democrats, open the government first and then we ll talk. you will not get everyone happy on either side of the aisle with whatever solution we ve ended up landing on. kristin: you ve described what president trump is doing and his
the center in political debate. i think julian brings government experience, having worked in the obama administration, he was mayor of san antonio, so whether he s got a chance, i think he definitely has a chance. it s too early to know who will make it, but i think he will add a great conversation to the national debate. kristin: he s got great name recognition in texas but not so much nationally. when you re up against perhaps somebody like a former vice president joe biden, it tends to suck the oxygen out of the room. how does somebody like julian counter that? sure. i think part of his story is very unique. he has an immigrant story. his family isn t from the united states. so let s look at obama. obama in 07 when he announced he wasn t going to be the front-runner, he became the president. this is the beautiful thing about democracy. the american people will decide. we will have a lot of debate, a lot of time to get to know this candidate. i m so happy to see someone like juli
line in the senate, not take up these individual spending bills, there s time for this political debate to take place. leland: earlier, congressman rooney of florida said that he felt bad for the president. it seems as though this is exactly the debate the president wants for his base. look, his whole campaign began with a call for the wall and in fact, he won in great part because of his position on this wall. meanwhile, you ve got nancy pelosi s new majority in the house, they were elected to resist trump. that s a broader mandate, perhaps affords her more room to negotiate but at present, she s unwilling, obviously recently elected as the leader. i think the issue really is going to have to percolate for a little bit further. the factual subtext is harder for the democrats. they are arguing the wall doesn t work, the wall costs too much, the wall is immoral. meanwhile, we have police officers being shot, illegal immigrants aiding and abetting the suspects in these things. the fact