will be taking john place it might be on an interim basis of you now saying that over the next day or two but john will be leaving at the end of the year he s been with me almost two years now as you know between the two positions so. we re probably going to see every little while well robert is a professor at lancaster university and as to have the but the trump presidency journalism and democracy and he joins us from lancaster in the united kingdom good to have you with us how surprised are you the impending departure of john kelly. well you know shake ups like this happen after every president s midterm election this one isn t surprising also in the sense that there s been a lot of friction tension between kept and your cushion or and donald trump s family so it s been a power play within the white house in terms of jockeying for positions this does signal you know also that donald trump is shedding some of the long time political operatives within the white house who are
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