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money case, that case could come to a head early next year. donald trump s attorneys likely to try and drag this one out as long as possible, jose. so, jackie, former chief of staff john kelly told your colleagues at the washington post that trump is, quote, scared out of his mind, using other words. this is the way he compensates for that, he said. he gives people the appearance he doesn t care by doing this, but for the first time in his life it looks like he s being held accountable. what more do we know about how trump is dealing with all these investigations and indictments? yeah, jose, well, we do know that privately he is continuing to meet with perspective lawyers to hire as a part of this team representing him in the mar-a-lago documents case as we had noted yesterday. he did appear with christopher kise, the veteran florida litigator, but that appears to only be a temporary move as they re still searching for someone who has extensive in state experience in terms of nav
interference, and current msnbc analyst, andrew weissmann. what do you make of what pomeranz is alleging? there s a certain he said he said quality to this. one says apply the rule of law. the other says i amplying the rule of law, nobody would be charged in this situation. i have heard that one of the things that caused a difference between mark pomeranz, and alvin bragg and his senior prosecutors is the use of something called the willful blindness charge. you can t really prove intelligent. you can say somebody sort of closed their eyes to what was going on. that is a standard charge in federal court, and mark pomeranz is a federal prosecutor. he had no state experience going into this. the state prosecutor said that is not something that is charged in state course. there is no ability to bring that kind of charge. they only found one case with one judge who said you could do
so we re stepping in where the federal government is failing. i think more states can do it, tucker. but honestly, we should not have to be doing this. the federal government should be taking care of the immigration issue. last year, 2.4 million migrants were apprehended on the southern border shattering the previous record set in president biden s first year in office. that s more than the population of houston, guys. steve: so lucas, she s going to arizona to look at this, essentially called the 10 west transmission line. it s just a transmission line from arizona to california. and it s not like it s all renewable energy. it s still fossil fuel energy but they got to build up the grid if everybody is going to drive an electric vehicle. that s right and top anchors and oil executives are saying oil will be with us, oil and gas for the next 50 years and many people, of course, complain about green energy. it s just so expensive. brian: by the way, if you want to know how to ha