so they re not paying bank fees and a lot in health, new vaccines. so we re by far the biggest funder on malaria, coming up with new bed nets, new drugs. ..a vaccine, a way of killing mosquitoes. yeah, but if you think about this in terms of ethics, are you driven in your philanthropy mostly by excitement, by the potential outcome, or does it come from some deep psychological motive, you know, guilt, a feeling that you should live a life that s purposeful, a feeling that, you know, you genuinelyjust don t know what to do with this cash? i not only want to put the money in, but i want to put my time in and assemble people so we can learn, you know, what health systems work, which ones don t. i, you know, find the work very fulfilling. i get to learn new things. get to go to interesting places. yeah. there s no sacrifice involved. it s. well, it s quite a lot of financial sacrifice! sure, but i don t have any use for that money. i mean, i m not denying myself, you know, the wor