this very difficult position the paul ryan has been in since donald trump became the republican nominee for president and then present drop. he is a very different person than paul ryan, the president is, both temperament and in many cases ideological. paul ryan is a budget cutter and an entitlement reformer and the president campaigned against entitlement reform so paul ryan he said to walk a fine line to get along with the president and do not necessarily always back to the tone he has taken and at the same time for the president which is alienated some of that never trump who revered paul ryan. he is in a difficult box and i think we saw several times in the interview him trying to walk that line. rick: certainly different styles and apparently different opinions on many of these key issues. absolutely. i think paul ryan deserves credit for being a republican