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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170820:00:47:00

and that s why i think this is a really big deal tonight. and the one moment i think what qualify would be in 1985 when jim baker left as reagan s chief of staff and knew washington in a way that reagan had not and screwed up that and to some extent reagan s changes led to the iran-contra scandal which almost led to reagan s impeachment. if you look at other white house stats, in washington you always hear it s so important, this guy is leaving, this person is coming. they usually don t amount to very much. i think the departure of bannon is going to be a very big deal. why do you think it s potentially a standout moment like that, that change for reagan? what is it about bannon that tells you that his departure is going to be a big deal? because this is a guy who had his own constituency and public profile. you almost never see that in a top place in a white house staff. we never saw a president choose a chief strategist. you don t see that job title in any of the other administra

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170820:00:49:00

parts of the people who support donald trump. it s such an interesting idea about him having his own constituency and sort of a unique power but a unique form of leverage on the president, something that made it difficult for him to be in that sort of a senior role. i guess that leads to the question of whether he ll be replaced. it also, for me, seems important to note that nobody knew who he was a year ago. that s exactly right. yeah. and donald trump sort of made him. yeah. and he is now a huge figure, especially in that movement and in a position if he s angry at donald trump, you know, either because trump fired him or because he s angry that trump seems to have sided with new york globalists, so-called, he s in a position to do trump real

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170820:01:36:00

out of the house and the senate. so focus on electing the most conservative republican who can win, and then pick a republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the united states. peter, i mean that was an interesting theory, right? get conservatives, fiscal conservatives, that is, elected to the house and the senate, and get a president who will sign the bill. that isn t even what republicans have at the moment because they don t have the moral leadership. they don t have the thing that you count on the white house for typically when you re trying to get tough bills through and tax bills are tough bills. yeah, you re exactly right. grover s theory was interesting. it was also wrong. this is exactly what the republican leadership, paul ryan and mitch mcconnell thought could happen. they understood on some level that donald trump was an extremely inept and ignorant man, but they thought they could push through an agenda and that they would get him to

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170820:00:48:00

was able to sort of bridge this gap between, you know, the globalists and the nationalists if, you want to call them that, economic nationalists, and perhaps white nationalists represented by bannon as long as he was inside the white house, he could bridge those two because he didn t have to worry about bannon denouncing him to the public. it s sort of what lbj has said about j. edgar hoover, better to have him inside the tent than outside the tent. tomorrow for the first time, donald trump has to deal with the very real possibility that steve bannon will go out and use breitbart and his other the other institutions that he helps to command to put real pressure on the trump presidency and perhaps try to break off certain

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170820:01:44:00

damaging to hillary clinton all of that should absolutely have red flags and alarm bells for robert mueller. so it makes sense to me that they re focusing on this episode and that intent is also part of it because proving willful intent would be a element of a crime of campaign finance law violations. you and i talked about this earlier when this first developed, when we first found out about this, and you said the one thing about these meetings because there are e-mails is that there are likely more e-mails. and bob mueller has the ability to subpoena the necessary equipment and records that will get him the whole story. donald trump jr. has disclosed some e-mails to us, but the question is whether there are more. sure. i think some of the things that mueller and his team are likely doing are getting their arms around all of the e-mails. there have been some reports that some documents were exchanged at this meeting. they would want to get their hands on those documents, and the

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