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Means, it s increasing your credit limit. for too long now, washington has disregarded the fact that that what that does is, it burdens our kids and theirs. we actually are digging the hole deeper for the next generation. but congressman, the president i m not saying who s right or wrong. the president wants higher taxes and more spending. you want lower taxes and less spending. the president says clean debt limit, just give me the increase in the debt limit, and you, the republicans, the boehner rule, say no increase in the debt limit without an equal or greater cut in spending. .i m not saying it s right or wrong. aren t we headed for a train wreck? i m hoping through the process we can find common ground. where s the common ground? last week in the house, chris, we codified the president s delay of the obamacare employer mandate. we also said, it s only fair to ....
Maybe he should start looking at cutting the pork barrel spending that he brings home to kentucky. governor christie can t point to votes that i ve ever voted to bring pork barrel projects to any state. chris: governor chris christie and senator rand paul, two republican presidential candidates demonstrating the divide these days inside the gop. we re back now with a panel. while there s a growing split among republicans on a number of issues from national surveillance to spending, and we may see that playing out on the panel here right now. bill, on obamacare, folks from the tea party wing, including senator demint, say no funding the government unless you defund obamacare. why are they wrong? they re right to want to fight obamacare. they re right, the leadership, in the house and senate, hasn t done enough to force votes, especially in the senate, to delay parts of obamacare, extremely vulnerable parts. the house did a good job in passing delays in both mandates, ....
Don t deal with job creation. even the republican governors are disappointed in the fact that the republican governors wanted spending on infrastructure. chris: senator demint, are you guys dysfunctional? this is debated whether we need to have. whether about nsa or obamacare, do we have courage of our convictions. is in a law that is going to hurt the country? chris: the republicans they pulled the spending bill because a lot of republicans weren t willing to go along with the sequester. although with the automatic spending cuts? it s going to be hard for a lot in congress to give up the spending. we re going bankrupt our country. what do say when they say it s not about accomplishments, it s about repeal. it s a healthy debate for republicans. chris: hold that thought. it s no about the fact that we ran out of time. [ laughter ] ....
chris, obamacare is unfair, unworkable, affordable, and very unpopular. even the democrats who wrote the bill say it s a train wreck. president obama has agreed it s not ready for primetime. i understand that you don t like that, but what about republicans lo say it s crazy. the point is it s a very destructive law. it s going to hurt our country and hurt a lot of people. this may be the last opportunity to stop it. there is no republican that i m aware of that wants to shut the government down. the whole point we need to fund the government but we should not fund obamacare as this is a temporary funding mechanism that is coming up in september. it should not be funded. this is would be a statement. reporter: what they say you don t take a hostage unless you are prepared to shoot them. if you are going down this road, were you prepared to shut down the government? the democrats are not going to along with it. i wouldn t shut down the government but if obama ....
Ultimately it disappoints that are on your side when you only control one-half of the legislative branch you can t force your will on the rest of us. here is the irony, obamacare remains unpopular and there is clearly problems with the implementation, this gives the g.o.p. infighting is taking problems off the law and putting it on the deep divisions within the party. chris: they have own internal battles over the year. should they love what is going on inside the republican party? reggae song, rain don t fall on one man s house. the things that are dividing the republican party, obamacare is the law of the land. it s going happen. they are leaderless. they can t control the extremist elements of the party. what does it mean to the american people. we manufacturer crisis and we ....