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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20121208:07:07:00

Justices can read the federal constitution to strip the people of the power to enact the laws governing such a fundamental social institution. you know, elizabeth, it s not like we re talking about rock of ages, the big surprise. we have nine states that have done it. in this past election, which i think is pivotal, four states did it completely by popular vote. no court ruling on rights, just public will. for the first time in 40 years in four states thanks to the efforts of chad and a lot of other people, for the first time there was a populist vote, and the people spoke. they have never spoken in favor before, but there are really two ways. it s also equal protection under the law and also that the court has found it to be a fundamental right. this is an extraordinary, extraordinary time, and let s cut this in two. there s two questions here. one is doma, the defense of marriage act. this administration will not ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20121208:07:13:00

Thank you. it s an honor to have you on and your organization. elizabeth birch, good to have you back. much bigger studio now. coming up, the republicans it going to be a big hit. we ll be covering this all year. the republican establishment is at war with its crazy wing. they say they lost the election because ideologues pulled mitt romney foo far to the right. that sounds reasonable. wrong says the right wing. we lost because mitt romney wasn t right wing enough. the winner of this little tango will determine whether the gop moves to the center where it might find some votes or becomes an even more fringy party. also, the fiscal cliff. it s down to two people. everybody seems to agree, two people get in the room, the president and the leader of the opposition, john boehner, the speaker. they may be closer, some argue, to an agreement than we think. the question is can they sell the deal to their bases, to their fringies, left and right i must say. plus, republicans say they ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20121208:10:07:00

You know, elizabeth, it s not like we re talking about rock of ages, the big surprise. we have nine states that have done it. in this past election, which i think is very pivotal, four states did it completely by popular vote. no court ruling on rights, just public will. for the first time in 40 years in four states, thanks to the efforts of chad and a lot of other people, for the first time there was a populist vote, and the people spoke. they have never spoken in favor before, but there are really two ways. it s also equal protection under the law and also that the court has found it to be a fundamental right. this is an extraordinary, extraordinary time, and let s cut this in two. there s two questions here. one is doma, the defense of marriage act. this administration will not defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases around the country where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender? chad, on that. what happens it doma gets str ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20121208:10:08:00

the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. what would it mean to a gay person who is married? that would mean that couples who are married in those states as well as the district of columbia, their marriages would be recognized by the federal government. now, it would mean we still have a lot of work to do, and depending on how they rule in the prop 8 case, we would still need other states to move forward with the right to marry. right. thank you. it s an honor to have you on and your organization. elizabeth birch, we are in a much bigger studio. the republican establishment is at war with its crazy wing. they say they lost the election because ideologues pulled mitt romney foo far to the right. that sounds reasonable. wrong says the right wing. we lost because mitt romney wasn t right wing enough. the winner of this little tango will determine whether the gop moves to the center where it might find some votes or becomes an even more fringy part ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20121208:07:02:00

Thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct. the defendants are adults, and their conduct was in private and consensual, and, quote, to declare the issue as one related to the right to engage in certain sexual conduct demeans the claim the individual put forward. so could it happen? could it happen next year? that the supreme court declare it is unconstitutional to deny people of the same sex the right to marry? what a question, what a story. joining me now is the president of the human rights campaign, chad griffin, and gay rights advocate elizabeth birch. i think i know what the majority opinion should look like. your thoughts. i couldn t have said it better, chris. it really is an incredible day today, that the supreme court is taking the prop 8 case, the perry case, as well as the doma case. and, you know, look, when this case was filed almost four years ago, the prop 8 case, we made the case in court that in this country we don t deny our citizens a fundamental rig ....

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