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because if you clear him, you know you re going to get that criticism. absolutely. we ended up having to have several different interviews with jermeir. and each time we would get maybe a little something more. and so it took a little while sometimes to pull all that stuff out. reporter: investigators say he appeared devastated. jermeir stroud insisted he had no idea that his secret romance might place denita in danger. but detective pate still thought jermeir was not entirely forthcoming. jermeir would tell me the truth, but you had to ask it. he wasn t volunteering anything? absolutely not. reporter: they interviewed jermeir both at the greensboro pd and over the phone. and each time a little bit more information would emerge, including what happened after he and shannon ended their romantic relationship.
her conviction. i don t feel that there is any evidence that can conclusively say that i shot and killed anyone. my dna is nowhere at the scene. i have no fingerprints at the scene. i admit that i was there, but i was not there by myself, and i certainly didn t shoot anyone. reporter: and shannon insists all those phone calls are real and they prove what she s saying. you know i already got away with murder once. think i can t do it again? i m sure you can. someone like you, i m sure. trying to keep my ass out of jail. reporter: why doesn t it sound like jermeir on those tapes? i don t know. i recognize his voice. i know him. reporter: the jury certainly didn t seem to believe that. jermeir testified for a few minutes during the trial. by the time the recordings were played, he had already testified. i don t know whether or not they could remember his voice from then when he testified to later on. reporter: look, i but it s him. reporter: i don t know jermeir,
i don t know who else would be calling me nonstop, threatening to kill me, threatening to kill my children. reporter: well, the allegation is that nobody did and you faked all of that. how could i fake a phone call? reporter: you get some friend of yours to call you from another phone. and put my family through all of that? this wasn t just me. it was my children, my mother. reporter: as for shannon s story about the sexual assault outside her mother s house, she insists the police investigation wasn t done properly and that the rape really happened. why wouldn t jermeir s dna be found? he s a police officer. he made sure that his dna would not be found. reporter: his cell phone records put him on the phone at the time you say that this assault was going on. and i don t believe that he was ever talking to anyone on the phone. i know where he was that night. reporter: prosecutor david saacks says the rape allegation was thoroughly investigated and jermeir was cleared.
she waited so long to tell it? when i asked her, where was this story when i arrested you? her exact words were, he had threatened my children in the past. i was scared for their safety. he knew how to get to my children. and i asked her, what s changed? he still knows where your children are. he still knows how to get to them. he could still hurt them. reporter: and her answer? she just looked at me. everything i ve told you is the truth. but you lied the first time we talked. yes, i did. the second time we talked. the second time we talked i did not lie to you. after i was arrested, i did not lie to you. i told you i didn t do it. that wasn t a lie. i told you that he did. reporter: he was jermeir stroud. shannon s story made him the guilty party, but her story also badly needed to be checked out. that s just a fantastic kind of story. if i m going to dismiss her case i need to make sure i m filling out the dismissal and i put the
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