charge the trump organization. if they do charge this would mark the first criminal charges from an investigation by the manhattan district attorney s office into the former president and his business. david is a reporter for the washington post who broke news of that deadline yesterday. and a former federal prosecutor for the southern district of new york and a former new york state deputy attorney general. they both join me now. a lot to process here. i want to start with this meeting with you. and i have to say as someone who has done a lot of reporting on the criminal justice system at a very ground level with folks getting busted for drugs a, assaults, things like that, it s very strange the thing that happens in the white collar world where you have meetings with attorneys and everyone is in a room and there is sort of like debates and negotiations am but it strikes me this is in