i m listening to that. you don t win the center by going to the center. this is the dream message. you can have your cake and eat it too. he s saying look i have won, i have profd it. when he was running for governor we re not talking about a lot of democrats who are maybe coming up to the polls. people are already strongly liberal or conservative. i think he s got a lot more to prove than just his record in wisconsin. he did, casey hunt did talk